Finding the Western Church in the Scriptures

As I was reading Psalm 74 the other day I could not help but think what was being described was a direct parallel to what was happening to the church today. 

Psalm 74 

O God, why have You rejected us forever?
Why does Your anger smoke against the sheep of Your  pasture?
2 Remember Your congregation, which You have purchased of old,
Which You have redeemed to be the tribe of Your inheritance;
And this Mount Zion, where You have dwelt.
3  Turn Your footsteps toward the perpetual ruins;
The enemy has damaged everything within the sanctuary.
4 Your adversaries have roared in the midst of Your meeting place;
They have set up their own  standards for signs.
5 It seems as if one had lifted up
His axe in a forest of trees.
6 And now all its carved work
They smash with hatchet and hammers.
They have burned Your sanctuary to the ground;
They have defiled the dwelling place of Your name.
8 They said in their heart, “Let us completely subdue them.”
They have burned all the meeting places of God in the land.
We do not see our signs;
There is no longer any prophet,
Nor is there any among us who knows how long.
10 How long, O God, will the adversary revile,
And the enemy spurn Your name forever?
11 Why do You withdraw Your hand, even Your right hand?
From within Your bosom, destroy them!


Here the Psalmist is crying out to God because the enemy has destroyed the church and he is pleading for God not to forget his people to do something to stop the enemy and come back to habitate.  No longer is the temple of God in physical form like in the old testament where armies could come and destroy but in our hearts and gatherings of believers.  When enemies in the old testament where able to destroy the temple it was because of moral decay of the nation. Today the enemy has done the exact same thing to God’s people but on a spiritual level. He has infiltrated our physical communities and waged war on the temple of our hearts to the point where the spiritual state of the church reflects the Psalmist’s words written thousands of years ago.

In vs 2 he states that God has dwelt in past tense declaring that he no longer dwells there and that the sanctuary is in ruins. 

And this Mount Zion, where You have dwelt.
3  Turn Your footsteps toward the perpetual ruins    

Today it is the same, God’s presence if fleeing from all the churches as they exchange the truth of God for a lie, loving their life and having a form of Godliness but deny his power.  When God leaves because of sin and disobedience the sanctuary of our hearts literally lays in ruins.  

3 The enemy has damaged everything within the sanctuary.
4 Your adversaries have roared in the midst of Your meeting place;
They have set up their own  standards for signs.

If you haven’t noticed church’s are drastically changing the way they do things, no matter where you go they all seem the same and do things the same all void of the spirit. Because the enemy is in control of the churches  they have setup their own signs which we now follow. 

They have burned Your sanctuary to the ground;
They have defiled the dwelling place of Your name.
8 They said in their heart, “Let us completely subdue them.”
They have burned all the meeting places of God in the land.
We do not see our signs;
There is no longer any prophet,

The first thing we need to do is not be in any denial. The collective sanctuary has been burned to the ground. As we keep going to physical buildings, gathering for services that glorify another we can keep telling ourselves that this is just how it is or we can admit that the enemy has deceived us and start rebuilding.  All the meeting places have been effected some more than others. We don’t see “our” signs the signs of true believers but new ones that lack any real power. Keep waiting for the “Anointing” the glory clouds and gold dust. Just ignore things like salvation, discipleship, genuine healing, prayer and discernment of the word and you will continue to live in the perpetual ruins.  

We need to take the heart of the Psalmist and cry out to God in repentance and ask him reverse the work of the enemy. 


After reading that Psalm I was led to the letters to the Church in Revelation and I wondered what one would best fit North America and the West? Most churches had pats on the backs with a few rebukes but one was in such a state it was going to be snuffed out!

I honestly have to say that the one that describes us the best is the Church of Sardis:

Message to Sardis

Revelation 3 “To the angel of the church in Sardis write:

He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars, says this: ‘I know your deeds, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead2 Wake up, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God. 3 So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent. Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come to you. 4 But you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments; and they will walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’


Do not listen to the prophets today that are prophesying big revivals and wealth and prosperity to the nation. The few legit ones that are left are all saying repent! For there can be no revival without repentance. When the highest levels of our governments are practicing witchcraft and sorcery, exploiting the poor, lying and deceiving and destroying the earth  we need to be in sackcloth and ashes.  Many churches that I have been  to have a very small core group of dedicated believers who have not soiled their garments and the whole church rides on their coat tales.  And OFTEN it is not the leadership of the church. Until people turn from their lives of entertainment, pursuit of careers, money, love and fame this situation will only get worse. In fact I believe it is already too late to hold off the coming judgment on our land, everything is already in place waiting for the command. But if we can humble ourselves and pray he will protect us in the time of adversary. 




8 thoughts on “Finding the Western Church in the Scriptures

  1. True insight … one mistake that many make is attributing this “fall” to a recent infiltration (give or take 30 years) of the enemy into our churches. But what we are seeing right now is merely the fruit of a seed planted long ago. Paul said in his letter to the Thessalonians that “lawlessness” was at work even in his day. During the time of Constantine (3rd or 4th century?), the “church model” was so drastically changed, that it never recovered. The Sabbath, the Torah, the Feasts of the Lord were all completely forsaken … and we, in this generation, were doomed to reap the consequences of what was handed down to us.

    May we all repent, return and embrace the ways of Yah set forth in his Word.

  2. Since you closed comments on your prior post “Decoding The End Times”, and asked me several questions, I have no choice but to answer here:

    You wrote: “No Fruits of the Holy Spirit, like you even know me. Are you a Christian and addressing me this way?”
    To tell someone (in this case Marion) “So how do you explain UFOs? Aliens? I bet you have a really educated answer.” does NOT bear fruit of a Christian and yes I am a Christian addressing you that way, because that comment was completely uncalled for especially since all Marion did was shed light that those guys are false teachers.

    Isn’t that part of 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

    Last I checked reprove is another word for admonish. As a discerner, hence your blog “Deception Free”, and as someone being part of The Body of Christ, shouldn’t you, like myself, and anyone else, be open to admonishment? Accepting correction is not a bad thing. My motives for bringing this to light was NOT an attack, but instead you retaliated with condescending comments insinuating (not just towards me but Marion) that we’re “uninformed”.

    I gave you SEVERAL sources! And for the record that string of entries are not all written by the same person. The Techno-Dimentional Prayer Combat entry is one of the one that goes into the NAR connections with those guys, documentation and all. If you scroll the archives on Herescope, there is another entry they did last year about these guys that show documented pictures of conferences they have done with the NAR. Wow I am just blown away that you ONLY looked at one entry on Herescope and failed to look at everything else. When someone has brought info to me and warning me, I investigate it myself, not just so that I won’t be lead astray, but so I won’t lead other people astray (since I like you have my own site).

    My reasons for why I quit listening to them? Well it started with Skiba. Even though it was AFTER he was exposed by Mike Hoggard (who I do NOT support by the way) for his past with Bill Johnson. Skiba made no secret in a post, posted by another facebook friend (this was circa 2012) that he learned some valuable info about the gifts of the spirit from Bill Johnson when Johnson had visited his church a couple years prior. Ok fine, Skiba mighta moved on and not fallen for it all, I WILL extend grace in that. However when a video was posted from that same facebook gal, warning of Jesus Culture along with a quote from one of those Jesus Culture promoters in the video about “elevating the supernatural” (something to that effect) and her objections to that. It was Skiba who objected to her comments saying that she should not quench the supernatural. Ummm if he was really THAT informed about all that, since he is this “great researcher” as you and others claim, he would know Jesus Culture is a false movement, instead of defending it. Of course now he “claims” to speak out against all that. So OK fine, we moved on from that..

    Then it turned into his constant Law Keeping doctrine he was promoting. Of course he LIES and says he is not Hebrew Roots, he IS, a blind man can see that! (I also provided a link that you obviously did not look into) And too, and believe me I listened to TONS of Skiba’s Revolutionary Radio show, plus being on his facebook for 2 years, he hardly ever ever ever gives the gospel, and when confronted with that (which he was) he just overlooks the comments.

    In regards to Marzulli, who I actually liked more than Skiba because he didn’t seem so arrogant towards correction, at least from afar. It was the same thing, hardly any gospel proclaimed! And I began to pick up on the NAR terminology early on, but was so enamored with his “knowledge” that I put it aside. I even wanted to scrounge up money to go on his little trip to the Mayan pyramids he had planned for Dec. 2012.

    Well, around that time, I had gotten out of the charismatic movement, and in my spirit I felt something wasn’t right. So, I began to ask The Lord that if there was ANY deception in my life for Him to reveal it. It was shortly after that, that Marzulli took upon himself to be “pastor” on his blog with some weekly “teachings”. His poor application to scripture, eisegesis, his elevation on the supernatural and the gifts of the spirit-but in an NAR context mind you. Then his perpetual sudden endorsements of Russ Dizdar who I TRIED to listen to mind you, but something seemed off about that man.

    When Herescope started to expose them, I did not (and still don’t agree) with those first postings because they do seem to be against Gen.6 -angels mingling with woman. HOWEVER, it was when they began documenting those men’s ties to the NAR is when I fully realized those men were in error.

    So, I leave it like this, and take it how you want, just because someone exposes error doesn’t automatically make them without error. A lot of their stuff is nothing but eisegesis, adding to scripture, taking stuff from gnostic sources -which I WILL add Herescope DID expose Skiba openly [during a round table convo] saying that The Bible wasn’t enough to go by as far as prophecy goes-this was a post somewhere along late 2012. The documentation IS out there, it’s just a matter of acceptance and pride swallowing to admit “hey I was wrong”. Cause believe me I had to do some pride swallowing myself regarding my error in following these guy’s teachings.

    And lastly I will add this, Tom Horn had a video endorsement of his book he wrote with Chris Putnam “Petrus Romanus”, which elevated a catholic mystic “prophet”, in the video endorsement you would have thought Horn was a catholic himself, because he elevated the Catholic church to such a high degree.

    I don’t know what else to say other than just because someone gives you a friendly warning does not make them “uninformed” or whatever other claims you might have towards them. There IS some truth to conspiracy theories, I have researched plenty out myself, however in the big grand scheme of things it, like most anything else, is a big huge distraction. God is doing a bigger and better thing than the elite/Illuminati. The Bible say the gates of hell will not prevail. I would rather grow in God’s knowledge and in grace than in who is MK Ultra mind controlled and who isn’t. We ALL have a choice, to assume (not saying YOU are but a lot of conspiracy folks do) that all these Hollywood people (for example) are victims and mind controlled, then ultimately they have an excuse for their sin and that is not biblical. The recent theory being is that Philip Seymour Hoffman was murdered in an Illuminati ritual sacrifice. PLEASE! So I guess Hoffman’s KNOWN heroin abuse stemming from May 2013 was just a scam eh? No, the guy was an addict who needed God but chose drugs instead, sadly he died unsaved with a needle in his arm. And it has grieved me since I heard, cause my own father was a junkie too, died the same. And Hoffman left 3 young kids. BUT the conspiracy theorist will have fanatics believing Hoffman was a victim -so to speak- and innocent (of sin if you see the BIGGER picture) and was murdered. So yes, there ARE some deep errors in the conspiracy theory arena. It takes discernment EVEN WITH THAT to weed out the error.

    I pray that you open yourself up to investigating people a little bit more thoroughly, and I pray that The Lord will show you, like He did me, if there is deception in your life. I digress. Take care and God bless!

  3. I was just reading Rev 3 the church at Sardis the other day
    It’s the mercy of God having us repent….
    Thanks for the word.

  4. You ain’t gonna learn anything at prophecy conference. Its all about the lecture circuit, making merchandise ,and they are gonna spread dispensationalist lies, and try to make some money off it.

  5. Reblogged this on Intrepid Didymus and commented:
    Let us all go to prayer and repent after reading this. I am just as guilty as the next person of a life not spent seeking our Lord Jesus in all things. We get comfortable in our lives and completely forget the One above who should be our EVERYTHING. I pray for the Holy Spirit to come over each and every one of you who read this that He will convict our heart that we may come to Him in prayer and repent and turn toward Him and away from the world of lies in which we live.

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