The Israel Bandwagon

These posts are meant to shed light on the fact that there is much deception and propaganda that Christians believe about Israel. I do not believe in this blind support that Christians seems to have for this state of Israel. There are many important facts that are being left out.  Please do not jump to conclusions that I am anti Jew or against “Israel” without reading my entire posts, for you will see this is not the case at all. I hope these postings will help people define just what true “Israel” really is.

There are many churches that spend a lot of time and energy supporting Israel, some even making it a center point of their church. People pray for Israel, wave the flag and vote for people who politically support Israel.   I have seen too much ignorance in this area with the church blindly jumping on the support Israel bandwagon.  Christians seem to think the state of Israel is the center of the universe.  They think Israel can do no wrong, and that you need to support them at all costs because if you don’t, well you are not being a good Christian. It appears from my past post that I can lose the point in my writing. I am doing my best so if this post happens to be not as “Kosher” as you like try to see my main points.  This is not a column in some established news paper but my blog where I post my mind. I do not have an editor or even time to get rid of every spelling error so have some grace please.

My Initial post on Israel created quite a stir and made some people very unhappy.  I don’t claim to be an expert in Middle East affairs or the State of Israel, but I think I made some very valid points in my posts. From the responses I got it appears that many people have fallen for the Zionist propaganda thrown out into the Christian world.  I deleted the first part of my post because I feel I may have confused a few facts and wanted to make it clearer.

ISRAEL

I want to make it clear what my points on Israel really are since people are confused.

-The “State” of Israel is a political entity created by the people trying to create a world government and is not true Israel, the people.  The Israeli flag has nothing to do with Jews but is an occult symbol used by the Jewish Kabbalah mystics.

– This controlled state of Israel is guilty of war crimes and are the aggressors in the Arab Israel conflict. The picture is much bigger than that statement both sides are guilty of aggression, but the hostility is fueled from a very small minority on each side. Arab casualties far out wiegh the Israeli casualties. Israel’s “retaliations” are completely unjustified. There is a much bigger plan going on behind the scenes.

– True Israel, as for the future promises of the bible is not this “state” of Israel or even the race of Jews but rather for the Believing Jews and Gentiles. The unbelieving Jews and gentiles where always cut off and share no inheritance in the eternal kingdom.

STATE VS NATION

The STATE of Israel we see today is not what we think it is.  Although it may be the precursor to the promise this is not the promise.  The Israeli government is not run by believers in Jesus or even Orthodox Jews, the fact is Israel is run by Zionists.  Zionists are not Jews, they are Kabbalah Mystics who are part of the NWO trying to create a global government.  They created this state to manipulate world politics for their own agenda.  It is important to understand this because the State of Israel’s Allies are all run by the same people.  America supports Israel because they know the Israeli government is run by the same shadow government they are run by.  The UN, America and the Western World care nothing for Orthodox Jews or Jewish people, but only their own agenda.  Read my other post to see what I think is really happening behind the scenes.

-The Israeli flag proves all of the above.  The star of David has nothing to do with Orthodox Jews but rather is an occult symbol used by the Zionist.  See my other post for more information.

-Many Torah keeping Jews do not support the State of Israel and are opposed to Zionism.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/protests/nyc12feb02.cfm

This present Government of Israel and the Israeli army is not being obedient to God or his laws, they are in fact out of covenant.  Unbelieving, disobedient Israel never pleased God and was ALWAYS cut off and never shared in any promise.  As stated in my last post, Israel is guilty of great crimes against humanity.  The suffering of the Arabs is always overlooked.

The land that is now the state of Israel was previously settled by Arabs for hundreds of years.  There were some Jews that lived with the Arabs in PEACE.  They were not enemies.  It wasn’t until the Zionists started pushing their agenda that aggression started taking place.  Prior to 1948 there was much debate to how the land would be divided.  From my research it was always a select group of people that would not accept the agreements and stirred up hatred and anger.  One of the first Arab aggressions against Israel was the Nebi Musa Riots of 1920.  In all, four to six Jews and four Arabs were killed and over 200 Jews were wounded.  A large amount of Jewish property was burned or pillaged.  Synagogues and religious schools were torched and Torah books were desecrated.  This all was staged by a small group of people and instigated by 2 men,  Haj Amin al Husseini and Aref el Aref, editor of the newspaper “Southern Syria.”  People must realize that all this was staged by the governments, military and the shadow governments.  The Arab people and Jewish people have little say in these matters.  I’m sure if you removed all these political manipulators from the equations, the regular Arabs and Jews could have worked out an agreement on their own a long time ago.  If you don’t believe me that Israel is the perpetrator and the Arabs are the victims just check out these stats.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

In 2005 6 Israeli soldiers died from terrorism.  Yet 30 died from suicide!

I agree that racism against Jews is wrong and it unfortunately does happen.  But I know the Zionists  have exploited this for their own agenda and make it out to be much bigger than it really is.  It is always a small group of people that hate the Jews and then stir up the crowds to hate them for no good reason.  WW2 affected everybody and you will always hear of the 6 million Jews that died.  This is horrible but the Jews were not the biggest victims of WW2.  Why do we not hear of the 12-28 million Russians that were killed in WW2?  There are many problems with racism in the world and the Jews are just one of them.  Are the Jews the most persecuted people on the planet in modern history?  I can’t say I know the answer but I do ask – what about the many other people killed in genocide?  Pol Pot and Cambodia, the American backed genocide in East Timor.   Or what about the millions of African and Chinese slaves that helped build the West?  I’m just trying to put a perspective on the fact that the Jews are not the leading victims of modern day history.  “Anti-Semitism” is being used as a tool to further the Zionist agenda.  As soon as someone says anything against what they do or what the State of Israel does, you are automatically “Anti-Semitic”.  They have many things they can do to you once they convince people you are “Anti-Semitic”.

FUTURE PROMISES FOR ISRAEL

There are many promises in the bible in reference to Israel, God’s Children, his Elect and Chosen people.  One of the biggest misconceptions in all of this is that people are led to believe that this is all in reference to the race of Jews being God’s chosen, elect, children and inheritors of all future promises.  There are people that try and separate the promises for the church and Israel as being different.  In regards to these promises I am going to separate different classes of people that can get confused into the same:

The Race of Jews – people with blood heritage.
Orthodox Jews – Ones who keep the old covenant and are obedient to Torah and old traditions. They do not accept the new covenant with Jesus as the Messiah.
Messianic Jews –  Jews who accept the new covenant and Jesus as the Messiah.
Non practicing Jews –  Jews that don’t keep anything but are only Jews by blood.
Zionists – Some of these are of Jewish blood but possibly not all of them. They are a political group that is part of the NWO that are steeped in the Occult.
Christians – Those who believe in the new Covenant through Jesus.

The only ones that are not “Jewish” in the above group are the “Christians” or I would rather say believers in Jesus.  Now in regards to the bible, future prophecy that talks about God’s chosen, His elect and children.  These are the ones who are going to inherit the eternal Kingdom.  But who from the above group is actually the “Chosen” and “Elect”?

Let’s take a look at the history of Israel.

Israel was birthed out of a promise to Abraham to make him a great nation(Genesis 12:2-3).  It was his seed that would bring the Messiah to save the world.  There were 12 Tribes of Israel that came from Jacob.  It was through the Jews that the promise was preserved and the world was blessed.  Israel was divided a long time before Christ.  Judah is mainly the southern kingdom and the rest the northern.  The northern kingdom was scattered first and then the southern.  It was only the southern kingdom that came back to the land, the rest has been scattered across the face of the earth.  If being a Jew was a matter of blood and genetics than virtually anyone could be a Jew since people migrate and intermarry.  But I will bring up the point that it is impossible that God cares more about genetics than he does about the believing heart later.

A lot of prophecy in the bible talks about Israel, “The elect” and God’s “Chosen people”.  A lot of it has been fulfilled, but the bible also talks about a future time where all Israel will be gathered back together.  If you read the prophetic books esp Revelation you will hear a lot about God’s chosen people, those He is redeeming for himself.

People are trying to tell me that all these promises are for the Jews of present day and not Christians?  This is a real problem for me when people try to take the promises of the bible and say that the church is separate from Israel.  It cannot be true that all these promises in the bible are only for Jews just because they have Jewish blood and Jewish genetic code.  Even if they hate God himself and deny Jesus as Lord they receive the promises?  On the contrary, the bible says the opposite, the unbelieving Jews were always cut off.  It is quite clear that God does not care if you have Jewish blood, you enter the promises if you are a believer.   (Romans 2)

Romans 11

 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the [h]rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

Is it not clear that we are grafted in to believing Israel and share in the exact same promises?  Unbelieving Israel is cut off unless they believe.  Jesus was the final prophet to Israel and was rejected by most.  There is no special salvation for those with Jewish blood, if they don’t believe in Jesus they share the same fate as the rest of the unbelieving world.

Go read the book of Joel and you will see it is a very prophetic book.  It talks a lot of things to come in the age we are living in now and the end.  Here is a sample of the very last passage:

Judah Will Be Blessed

18 And in that day
The mountains will drip with [
j]sweet wine,
And the hills will flow with milk,
And all the brooks of Judah will flow with water;
And a spring will go out from the house of the Lord
To water the valley of [
k]Shittim.
19 Egypt will become a waste,
And Edom will become a desolate wilderness,
Because of the violence [
l]done to the sons of Judah,
In whose land they have shed innocent blood.
20 But Judah will be inhabited forever
And Jerusalem for all generations.
21 And I will avenge their blood which I have not avenged,
For the Lord dwells in Zion.
 

If this passage is talking about the end, where is the church? The bible in most of it’s prophecy uses Hebrew words to describe everything and most of the end prophecy talks about Israel, Zion and Jerusalem.  If the church is not included in these promises than it appears his church, his bride is cast away and God only cares about ….Israel.  I think the correct view here is no replacement theology or not replacement theology but rather Hybrid Theology as described in Romans 11. God has a bigger plan for what his people are that goes beyond race, but his people the chosen children are those who believe, the original Jews who believe and the Gentiles who have been grafted in thus creating a Hybrid Israel. (Gentiles & Jews)

1 Peter 2:9
But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

Is peter talking about Jews only?  Or believers whether Jew or Greek?

It is clear to me to me that God’s chosen special people, His elect, the apple of His eye are not Jews alone, but those who follow him and believe in Jesus.  Jews were the chosen race in the Old Testament to bring about the Messiah, but then He gave them a new covenant with Jesus.  It did not forfeit all the old promises but rather it reinforced them.  They still have to obey God and His new plan with Jesus in order to receive those promises.  

Heb 8

A New Covenant

For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. For finding fault with them, He says,

“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
[
f]When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
[
g]I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.
11 “And they shall not teach everyone his fellow citizen,
And everyone his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’
For all will know Me,
From [
h]the least to the greatest of them.
12 “For I will be merciful to their iniquities,
And I will remember their sins no more.”

13 [i]When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is [j]ready to disappear.

The same people that take certain promises and say that is for the Jew will they themselves take promises made to Jews and apply it to themselves.  Verses such as:

Joel 2:27-29

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 “Thus you will know that I am in the midst of Israel,
And that I am the Lord your God,
And there is no other;
And My people will never be put to shame.

The Promise of the Spirit

28 [a]It will come about after this
That I will pour out My Spirit on all [
b]mankind;
And your sons and daughters will prophesy,
Your old men will dream dreams,
Your young men will see visions.
29 “Even on the male and female servants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days.

 

It is clear that the promise is for believers whether Jew or Greek even though it was spoken to Israel.  So who is calling the shots to whether one verse is for Jews and the other for Christians??

The promises of God are for Israel, those who believe in Jesus.  We are Israel if we believe and even more, many of us probably have blood from the lost 10 tribes within us.  But what about the Jews today that keep OT law but reject Jesus?  The bible says Israel is not cast away and even a partial hardening has taken place.  I believe God cares about the physical Jews as well by blood and honors those who still keep his old covenant.  You can see they are blessed in how they live their lives.  I think God makes special effort to show them Jesus so they will believed and be saved.   But to the Jews that don’t keep the law or believe in Jesus, they are the same as any other heathen.  The bible is clear that keeping the law cannot bring salvation and the only way to God is through Jesus.  If Jews could be saved by keeping the law than that means I could choose not to believe in Jesus and keep the law and be saved.  That would than prove the bible to lie and say that there is another way to God than through Jesus.  Orthodox Jews are still blessed and have a purpose in what God is doing right now on the earth, as we can see in the Middle East.  Scripture does point to God having a bit of TLC towards the original chosen race over gentiles, just as the scripture says for the Jew first then for the Gentile, but in the end we will all the be the same if we believe the same.

In conclusion I include all “believers” in the new covenant part of True Israel whether Jew or Gentile.  I do not support this NWO controlled state as True Israel and do not support any politician because they say they support Israel.  There is so much that could be said on this topic, I’m sure I have left much out but I hope I made some concrete points for Christians to think about before they start blindly supporting the State of Israel.

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6 thoughts on “The Israel Bandwagon

  1. Seek the Truth in Justice. Love Mercy. Walk Humbly with YHVH in His grace and Love for soon the “hedge” of Mercy shall be lifted and His Justice will be apparent and prevail over the Liar and the His/Her Lies. and those who choose to follow the Beast’s so-called- “New World Order” and it’s lie regarding peace, and so-called “Israel” and it’s Lie of safe haven, it is deception and entrapment. The N.W.O. usurps the birthright of TRUE YisRaEL only to build a temple for the man of sin to profess his perceived elevation above the throne of YHVH. His ultimate reality is to FAIL against YHVH. Return to the TRUTH. Return to the Covenant of YHVH even before the Law of Moshe’. Only Humility and Truth in practice of our Love of Elohim Echad of Father/Creator and Messiah will matter in the END. There are many Liars and only ONE Truth.

    If you doubt this, ask yourself how Enoch could walk with Yahweh 300 years and be taken up to the Presence of YHVH but not die? Ask how Noah would know the difference between clean and unclean animals.
    Ask yourself why Abel’s sacrifice was acceptable and Cain’s was not?

    Ask who is YisraEL and who are they who claim to be of Judah, his son but do lie and who are of the synagog of S.A.tan?

    Ask how do I find the “Key of David”?

    Who will you follow?

    Peace through Echad be blessed,

    Philip

  2. Physical Appearance Of The Biblical Hebrew Isrealites
    Attempting to identify what the Hebrew Isrealites looked like in the past further helps identify who they are and where they are, fully recognizing that much mixing of races and cultures has taken place.

    *NOTE: The Physical appearance of the Biblical Hebrew Israelites was the same as that of the Ancient Egyptians. Establishing what the Ancient Egyptians looked like establishes the skin color of the Hebrew Israelites. The Egyptians are descendants of Ham but share the same skin color with the descendants of Shem (Hebrew Israelites) as described in the bible.

    Genesis 42: 6-8 Now Joseph was governor over the land; and it was he who sold to all the people of the land. And Joseph’s brothers came and bowed down before him with their faces to the earth. 7 Joseph saw his brothers and recognized them, but he acted as a stranger to them and spoke roughly to them. Then he said to them, “Where do you come from?” And they said, “From the land of Canaan to buy food.” 8 So Joseph recognized his brothers, but they did not recognize him. (Joseph’s brothers could not tell that Joseph was an Israelite amongst the Egyptians. They were indistinguishable.)

    Genesis 50:11-13 And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning at the threshing floor of Atad, they said, “This is a deep mourning of the Egyptians.” Therefore its name was called Abel Mizraim, which is beyond the Jordan. 12 So his sons did for him just as he had commanded them. 13 For his sons carried him to the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, before Mamre, which Abraham bought with the field from Ephron the Hittite as property for a burial place. (At Jacobs burial, they are mistaken for Egyptians)

    Exodus 2:16-21Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters. And they came and drew water, and they filled the troughs to water their father’s flock. 17 Then the shepherds came and drove them away; but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock. 18 When they came to Reuel their father, he said, “How is it that you have come so soon today?” 19 And they said, “An Egyptian delivered us from the hand of the shepherds, and he also drew enough water for us and watered the flock.” 20 So he said to his daughters, “And where is he? Why is it that you have left the man? Call him, that he may eat bread.” 21 Then Moses was content to live with the man, and he gave Zipporah his daughter to Moses. (Moses mistaken as Egyptian)

    Acts 21:37-39 Then as Paul was about to be led into the barracks, he said to the commander, “May I speak to you?” He replied, “Can you speak Greek? 38 Are you not the Egyptian who some time ago stirred up a rebellion and led the four thousand assassins out into the wilderness?” 39 But Paul said, “I am a Jew from Tarsus, in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city; and I implore you, permit me to speak to the people.” (Apostle Paul was mistaken as an Egyptian)

    Job 30:30 KJV My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat. (Job is a black man)

    Genesis 49:12 His eyes are darker than wine, And his teeth whiter than milk. (Judah has black eyes and white teeth.)

    Song Of Solomon 1:5-6 I am dark, but lovely, O daughters of Jerusalem, Like the tents of Kedar, Like the curtains of Solomon. 6 Do not look upon me, because I am dark, Because the sun has tanned me. My mother’s sons were angry with me; They made me the keeper of the vineyards, But my own vineyard I have not kept.

    Song Of Solomon 5:11 His head is like the finest gold; His locks are wavy, And black as a raven.

    Lamentations 5:10 KJV Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. (Ovens were blackened from wood fire)

    Lamentations 4:8 KJV Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered , it is become like a stick.

    Numbers 6:5 KJV All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled , in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.

    Judges 16:13 KJV And Delilah said unto Samson, Hitherto thou hast mocked me, and told me lies: tell me wherewith thou mightest be bound . And he said unto her, If thou weavest the seven locks of my head with the web.

    Jeremiah 14:2 KJV Judah mourneth , and the gates thereof languish ; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up .

    Daniel 10:6 NKJV His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude. (Yahushua is a black man, google image burnished bronze)

    Ezekiel 1:5-7 Also from within it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man. 6 Each one had four faces, and each one had four wings. 7 Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the soles of calves’ feet. They sparkled like the color of burnished bronze. (The Cherubim’s are black)

    Revelation 1:14-16 KJV His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. (Yahushua is a black man, google image burnt brass)

    THE BIBLICAL HEBREW ISRAELITES ARE BLACK PEOPLE OF THE NEGROID RACE. YAHUSHUA IS A BLACK MAN AS THE BIBLE CLEARLY DEPICTS AN COMES IN HIS FATHERS NAME (YHWH pronounced YAHUAH). JESUS OR IESOUS IS A GREEK DIETY. THE CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN DECEIVED INTO WORSHIPPING ANOTHER god, PRECISELY AS FORETOLD IN JOHN 5:43, TO THEIR DESTRUCTION. IESOUS = ESUS = HESUS = JESUS = TAMMUZ. See for yourself.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esus

    JOHN 5:43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive.

    2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

  3. I appreciate this post very much. The Lord also showed me through the Scriptures that the Israel of God is made up of all who have the faith of Abraham. His kingdom is “not of this world” and its weapons are “not carnal.” Jews and Gentiles have indeed become “one new man” in Jesus Christ, and there is only one Salvation offered to all men. Though we are accused of following “replacement theology,” it is actually “grafted in theology” according to the olive tree example in Romans 11. There is only one Olive Tree.

    This obsession with the natural land of Israel has become a stumbling block to the American church, leading her to embrace political involvement (to support Israel) rather than to repent of sin and get right with God. It is commonly taught that as long as we vote in leaders who support Israel, America will be blessed. America defies God with sin every day, and she will not be blessed until she repents. Just as Israel has always been judged for sin, America will be judged for sin regardless of her political involvements. It is disheartening to see Christians focused on Israel rather than focused on Jesus Christ.

    Thank you for shedding light on the propaganda and lies. May many read and get understanding. God bless you.

  4. Both believing Jew and believing Gentile in Christ make up the new Jerusalem, all who reject Messiah will be cut off. Scripture states that everyone (including Jews) need to call upon the Lord today while it is yet day to be saved, and not harden their hearts or wait for a future time when Christ returns, it will be too late then and they will be lost for all eternity. To ignore this is utter folly and destruction. Thank you for your wise words.

  5. O. K. What you have posted is clear now as far as what the word of God says about His people and the ” one new man ” , and I understand what you are being on about. There is a deeper issue here that I don’t have the references to back up what I know and it is from years of learning the whole word of God that has given me this understanding. I know that the land has a very important part to play in how God is working His plan out for the world. Since we have to live on earth, as God has set it up now, for lack of a better word “a stage ” to bring things out in His plan, the land has to be in some form of state to bring it all about. The nation ~people, and the state ~government have to be on it.
    This all has to do with how we simply function ; owing land and since the beginning of time , we have been fighting over it ! Yes … people don’t have a clear knowledge of what you have explained and I am glad you are doing your best to inform the body of Christ. If what you have posted is all and only to clarify what the differences are as stated, you’ve done an excellent job.

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